I agree Ray. I also like this thread. I am against all violence. It's in all of us but we have to resist it. It has gotten me busted in my face several times. My refusal to engage in it. But If I am in a classroom, and a guy comes in with a gun, and I have a bazooka, of course, I am going to take him down. But, that to me is for the greater good. That is not evil. As much as I hate Trump, and as much as it is my natural impulse to hope for him to go out like that, we have to vote this evil out. Even if they succeed and stop him with prison, that still does not solve the issue. Americans need to collectively face their dark side and reject it. If not, the country needs to end and a new one must be organized. That might be 50-100 years from now. But still it must happen. Trump is a caricature from Game of Thrones. He's a dying breed but one that can do damage. The West has to decide also collectively that it wants to enter into a real, sustainable. world community. Some of the West's countries are moving or have moved in that direction. The US has not. Not to me. The US only wants to dominate the earth and the resources of the earth for consumption and dominance. That must end or we will end. I wrote too much, my apologies but this exchange was good but triggering.